11 months 3 weeks ago
Issued at 300 AM CST Tue Sep 24 2024
523
WTPZ45 KNHC 240852
TCDEP5
Tropical Storm John Discussion Number 8
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL EP102024
300 AM CST Tue Sep 24 2024
John moved inland at around 0315 UTC as a 105 kt Category 3
Hurricane. Since that time, the the storm has apparently turned more
leftward and remains just inland, skirting the southern coast of
Mexico. While surface observations have been sparse, my best guess
is that the storm recently passed just to the north of Acapulco,
where the airport earlier reported tropical-storm-force wind gusts
and west winds as the pressure dropped to 998 mb. Assuming the
small core has continued to quickly weaken, John is being
downgraded to a tropical storm, and the initial intensity is 60 kt
this advisory.
Following fixes from earlier microwave and more recent geostationary
satellite imagery, John now appears to be moving northwestward at
310/7 kt. The track forecast, which has been problematic with John
from the start, is just as difficult now. John has continued to
deviate westward of the previous forecast track and is now moving
roughly parallel to the coast of Mexico. To make matters worse, a
decent chunk of the of the global models guidance (ECMWF, UKMET) and
hurricane regional models (HWRF, HMON) suggest the circulation could
continue turning westward and attempt to re-emerge over the Eastern
Pacific. Even the GFS and CMC solutions, which appear to dissipate
the surface circulation inland over Mexico, show the mid-level
circulation persisting and drifting back offshore, leading to the
development of a new low-level circulation. Because it is becoming
distinctly possible that John does not move far enough inland to
dissipate entirely, and the aforementioned continued leftward
trends, the latest NHC track forecast is altered quite a bit form
the prior forecast, and now shows the possibility that John, albeit
as a tropical depression, moving back offshore as it becomes tangled
in the larger monsoonal flow. By 72 h, most of the track guidance
shows the system moving back inland. The updated track forecast is
roughly in between the HCCA and ECMWF trackers, and is of very low
confidence given John's track history. It also remains possible the
system could dissipate later today if it moves further inland.
Intensity-wise, John should continue to rapidly weaken as long as
it remains onshore, and the NHC intensity forecast shows the
tropical cyclone weakening to a tropical depression later today.
However, the new NHC forecast now maintains the system as a
depression and does not show dissipation beyond 24 h given the
latest track forecast taking the system along the coast of Mexico
and not far enough inland to completely dissipate. Some of the
models (notably the ECMWF) attempt to also re-intensify John as it
gets far enough back offshore, but given the large changes made on
this forecast cycle, the NHC intensity will not show that solution
quite yet.
Even if John remains inland, larger-scale moist monsoonal
southeasterly flow will persist along the southern coast of Mexico,
likely contributing to catastrophic rainfall both along the coast
and inland over the up-slope portion of the mountainous terrain.
This is a very dangerous life-threatening flooding scenario.
KEY MESSAGES:
1. Tropical Storm John could still producing tropical storm
conditions for the next few hours in the tropical storm warning
area.
2. Slow-moving John will bring very heavy rainfall to coastal
portions of southwest Mexico through the upcoming week. This heavy
rainfall will likely cause significant and possibly catastrophic,
life-threatening flash flooding and mudslides to the Mexican States
of Chiapas, Oaxaca, and southeast Guerrero, particularly in areas
near the coast and along the up-slope portion of areas of higher
terrain.
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
INIT 24/0900Z 17.3N 100.0W 60 KT 70 MPH...INLAND
12H 24/1800Z 17.4N 100.8W 30 KT 35 MPH...INLAND
24H 25/0600Z 17.0N 101.0W 30 KT 35 MPH...OVER WATER
36H 25/1800Z 16.7N 100.9W 30 KT 35 MPH
48H 26/0600Z 16.9N 100.6W 30 KT 35 MPH
60H 26/1800Z 17.4N 100.7W 25 KT 30 MPH...INLAND
72H 27/0600Z 18.1N 101.3W 20 KT 25 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
96H 28/0600Z...DISSIPATED
$$
Forecaster Papin
NHC Webmaster
11 months 3 weeks ago
Issued at 300 AM CST Tue Sep 24 2024
000
WTPZ35 KNHC 240850
TCPEP5
BULLETIN
Tropical Storm John Advisory Number 8
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL EP102024
300 AM CST Tue Sep 24 2024
...JOHN NOW A TROPICAL STORM AND MOVING NORTHWESTWARD...
...LIFE-THREATENING FLASH FLOODING TO CONTINUE ALONG SOUTHERN
MEXICAN COAST FOR THE NEXT FEW DAYS...
SUMMARY OF 300 AM CST...0900 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...17.3N 100.0W
ABOUT 115 MI...185 KM NW OF PUNTA MALDONADO MEXICO
ABOUT 30 MI...45 KM NNW OF ACAPULCO MEXICO
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...70 MPH...110 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NW OR 310 DEGREES AT 8 MPH...13 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...990 MB...29.24 INCHES
WATCHES AND WARNINGS
--------------------
CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY:
The government of Mexico has changed the the Hurricane Warning from
east of Acapulco to Lagunas de Chacahua to a Tropical Storm
Warning.
SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT:
A Tropical Storm Warning is in effect for...
* East of Acapulco to Lagunas de Chacahua
A Tropical Storm Warning means that tropical storm conditions are
expected somewhere within the warning area, in this case over the
next few hours.
For storm information specific to your area, please monitor
products issued by your national meteorological service.
DISCUSSION AND OUTLOOK
----------------------
At 300 AM CST (0900 UTC), the center of Tropical Storm John was
located near latitude 17.3 North, longitude 100.0 West. John is
moving toward the northwest near 8 mph (13 km/h). A very slow
motion westward followed by very little motion is forecasted over
the next several days.
Maximum sustained winds are near 70 mph (110 km/h) with higher
gusts. Additional rapid weakening is anticipated, and John is
expected to become a tropical depression later today.
Tropical-storm-force winds extend outward up to 45 miles (75 km)
from the center.
The estimated minimum central pressure is 990 mb (29.24 inches).
HAZARDS AFFECTING LAND
----------------------
Key Messages for John can be found in the Tropical Cyclone
Discussion under AWIPS header MIATCDEP5 and WMO header WTPZ45 KNHC
and on the web at hurricanes.gov/text/MIATCDEP5.shtml
RAINFALL: Through Thursday, Hurricane John is expected to
produce 6 to 12 inches of rain with isolated totals around 15 inches
across the coastal areas of Chiapas. In areas along and near the
Oaxaca coast to southeast Guerrero, between 10 and 20 inches of rain
with isolated totals near 30 inches can be expected through
Thursday.
For a complete depiction of forecast rainfall associated with
Hurricane John, please see the National Weather Service Storm Total
Rainfall Graphic, available at
hurricanes.gov/graphics_ep5.shtml?rainqpf
WIND: Tropical Storm conditions are ongoing within portions of the
tropical storm warning area and should continue for the next few
hours. Wind speeds atop and on the windward sides of hills and
mountains are often up to 30 percent stronger than the near-surface
winds indicated in this advisory, and in some elevated locations
could be even greater.
SURF: Swells associated with John are forecast to continue
affecting the coast of southern Mexico during the next couple of
days, with the potential for dangerous surf and rip currents much of
the week. Please see local statements for more information.
NEXT ADVISORY
-------------
Next intermediate advisory at 600 AM CST.
Next complete advisory at 900 AM CST.
$$
Forecaster Papin
NHC Webmaster
11 months 3 weeks ago
MD 2099 CONCERNING SEVERE POTENTIAL...WATCH UNLIKELY FOR KENTUCKY...FAR SOUTHEAST ILLINOIS...FAR SOUTHERN INDIANA
Mesoscale Discussion 2099
NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
1256 AM CDT Tue Sep 24 2024
Areas affected...Kentucky...Far Southeast Illinois...Far Southern
Indiana
Concerning...Severe potential...Watch unlikely
Valid 240556Z - 240830Z
Probability of Watch Issuance...5 percent
SUMMARY...An isolated severe threat will continue across the Ohio
Valley over the next several hours. A severe wind gust, or a brief
tornado will be possible. The severe threat is expected to remain
marginal, and watch issuance appears unlikely.
DISCUSSION...The latest water vapor imagery shows a mid-level
shortwave trough moving into the Ozarks. A distinct vorticity max is
evident on mosaic radar as an MCV in far southeast Missouri.
Thunderstorms are ongoing from near the MCV extending northeastward
into southern Illinois and southern Indiana, near a maximum in warm
air advection. Surface dewpoints in the lower Ohio Valley are in the
upper 60s F, and the RAP has MLCAPE up to 750 J/kg in the vicinity
of Evansville, Indiana. The WSR-88D VWP at Louisville has 0-6 km
shear around 45 knots, with 0-3 km storm-relative helicity around
175 m2/s2. Directional shear is confined mostly to the lowest 1
kilometer. This wind profile should be enough for transient
supercell structure. Any tornado that forms would likely be brief.
An isolated severe gust will also be possible, especially if any of
the cells can obtain a bowing structure.
..Broyles/Smith.. 09/24/2024
...Please see www.spc.noaa.gov for graphic product...
ATTN...WFO...ILN...LMK...IND...PAH...
LAT...LON 38588746 37968858 37498899 37138902 36918858 36898743
36918552 37288477 38038439 38578496 38708635 38588746
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